Baby et Lulu’s Album Trois comes out this Friday!

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After a long wait, Australian faux French band Baby et Lulu are releasing Album Trois – and it’s worth the wait! We had a chat with Lara Goodridge aka Lulu of Baby et Lulu about the band, Album Trois, writing in a foreign language, tour plans, French music and more. You can read our past interview with Abby Dobson, aka Baby here

Baby et Lulu - Album Trois

I’ve never asked before but why the names baby and Lulu?

That’s a good question! Well, without digressing too much. When we first did our very first show, which was at a warehouse party that I was putting out with my partner -you know that story?



It just kind of came to me when I was ringing Abby. And I say “let’s do that thing. Let’s just put on pretty frocks and sing one song at a party in French. But why don’t we make it a little thing?” And just my idea was coming up with just some kind of alterego, nickname thing. So for me, lots of my friends just call me Lulu or Lala or Rara.


Okay, so if it flowed from there.

Yes it flowed. So, I was Lulu and I suggested that to Abby. And I said, what what do you think you could be? She said, “well, I’ve always been Baby because she’s the baby of the family and it’s an anagram of Abby.” She’s baby Dobson. Yeah. So it just happened as baby et lulu.


Okay, so you were already known by those names anyway.

Yes, exactly, just not together.


So Album Trois comes out this week. How much of it had you recorded pre COVID?

It was ready to go at the beginning of COVID. We had probably received our boxes of CDs maybe a month into the very first lockdown [March/April] and we were about to go on tour. We had a big tour planned.

Baby et Lulu Album Trois cover
Baby et Lulu Album Trois cover

I know Adelaide Cabaret Festival was going to be the launch!

[Faux sobbing] Don’t mention it. It’s so sad.


Alright, we won’t talk about all of 2020…. or this year for you in Sydney.

No… so it was ready to go. And it was a big decision to choose whether to put the album out anyway or to wait. I felt ready to put the album out because people had pledged for it and I didn’t want people to have to wait for the album that they’d already given money to Abby was quite clear that “let’s just wait. It’s gonna be okay. Everyone will wait“. I’m really glad that she said that. And I’m glad that we did even though it’s now looking like the same situation.


Nooo…don’t say that! When are you meant to kick off on the Album Trois tour? 4th September?

4th September at the Camelot is the next show. There’s no way that’s happening. Not officially announced that but it’s obvious to every single person year in Sydney [because of the lockdown being extended]. And 1st October is the rest of the tour. I can’t officially say that it’s off yet, but it’s not looking good.


It must be so heartbreaking. You’ve had this baby ready to show for 18 months almost now.

Oh, I’m really devastated. We always knew it was a risk to book this tour. But you know, there have been these little pockets where they have been okay, so we just took a punt. If this one has to be put off again, we will probably look at March or April next year. I think the whole world is in exactly the same situation.


How would you say Album Trois differs to your two other albums?

We’ve got a different recording team, this time. The engineer/producer/mixer that we used for the last two albums was actually overseas when we went into record for this one. And we but we did find an absolutely beautiful team.


The young engineer who recorded it is a guy called Lewis Mitchell. And he’s just a young up and coming star in the major studio scene. And we just happened to get him as the engineer in the in the studio at Sony studios. He was just meticulous, really beautiful. And we recorded all the beds at Sony studios, like we did for the last two albums. It’s exactly the same, and then went to his little booth in Surry Hills and did all the overdubs and the vocals there.  He did an absolutely glorious job of recording it.


Then we used an Emmy Award winning mixer producer, Daniel Denholm, and again, he just did it just such a glorious job. We are really, really thrilled with the sound of this album. We’re really pleased with it.


Album Trois sounds beautiful, as always.

Yay! Yes, we love our last two as well. But we’re thrilled that we also found a great team. You know, because it’s a punt always pulling your team together. But we were really, really pleased. And again, Abby’s come up with two absolutely glorious songs and I penned two songs.

Cover image for Ballade de la mer, written by Abby Dobson, on Album Trois
Cover image for Ballade de la mer, written by Abby Dobson, on Album Trois

One quite serious and one a lot more upbeat.

Yes and we chose that song by Stromae, which is a bit of a salsa kind of vibe.


Something a bit more from the more modern era.

Exactly, we actually really threw that in just before recording. We haven’t even really performed that song, but it just needed something upbeat. “Let’s just look for something fun and new.” And threw it together and I’m so pleased we did, because I think that’s a really fun flavour that that’s in the album.


Apart from your own compositions, Album Trois features songs from the 40s 50s and 60s and then the Stromae one that we spoke about. What appeals to you about songs from those periods or French songs from those periods?

For me, I feel like it evokes a really romantic era. And growing up in Sydney in the 70s. In the 80s. We had weekend television and that’s all we had, there was no Netflix and all of that. We’re very lucky when SBS came in as the fifth channel. But until then, we had four channels. And on the weekends there would be these fantastic black and white movies, and early colour movies, like, Gigi and all those, and lots of French movies, they did play some French movies, in both English and in French, and I just remember being absolutely just spell bound by a French language and French music.


And even in English speaking, movies, we all knew the sound of Piaf and Yves Montand, etc. To me, it just really evoked this very exotic, elegant, sophisticated, and also almost sort of politically and culturally vibrant and exciting centre of the world, so I was just very drawn to it. So I think that all those songs that we choose, there’s something classic about it. And I think for our audiences, we like to give a range and something that some people will connect with.


And the previous two albums featured songs from the same periods too I think? Kind of from 40s 50s 60s?

Yes and 70s. We’ve tried not to choose songs specific to one era and to kind of pick a bit, we had Brigitte Bardot during that sort of 60s 70s Une histoire de plage and then a bit of Camille; so we’ve tried to mix it up all the way.


How do you choose the songs that you’re going to record? Is there a huge list you have to cull?

There is an ongoing list and we send songs to each other and some take and some don’t. Sometimes we try things out and then they just don’t translate to us as a duo and a band as well as we think it might.


Two of the artists that I just love, and we both love, are Barbara and Brel. We haven’t actually done any Jacques Brel. And they are both very wordy very fast. They have that sort of rebut or they speed up and it’s very romantic and, fervent. And every time we go to do one, we think “Can we pull it off?” Both of those artists have been just a little bit too challenging, thus far.

It was completely by accident that you were both in Paris at the same time and discovered you both spoke French quite well. So did you study French in year 12?

I did. And I did an undergrad and post grad as well. Actually, I did a Master of Arts in French studies. And Abby has much more street French, we always we always joke that she can pick up in French and I can find us the toilets! No, I can conjugate verbs! That’s right. She can pick up in French better, and I can conjugate verbs!


You could write the poetry and the literature though! Well both of you write songs in French.

That’s right. Abby does a beautiful job of that as well.


What are the challenges in writing in a language that’s not your first language?

We certainly check it with some French speakers. We have run things by French speakers, and sometimes they just say, “I’m sorry, that that just doesn’t work at all.”


Like that’s not a French turn of phrase.

Exactly. For me, there’s actually something really liberating about writing in a different language. I guess it just feels like you could be saying “I’m going to the bathroom” and it sounds amazing in French to us, you know? Compared to the English language to write lyrics, it just feels more poetic. So in that respect, I feel a little bit liberated. And I feel like I’m entering a different headspace and I do I feel probably possibly less self-critical in French, which might be a false sense of confidence.


Is it because you step into the persona when you’re writing?

Yes, I think I do probably step into that persona. I think this is probably a good time to use this quiet time to try to start writing the next album. I really loved that challenge of writing in French and actually, a couple of years ago, I got in touch with my old professor at Sydney Uni – she was my teacher at Sydney Uni and at New South Uni for undergrad and postgrad. I worshipped her. I invited her along to one of our shows. It was just so touching, so lovely because she wrote a really beautiful email afterwards saying how wonderful but you’ve written such beautiful poetry in French. So that was nice.


How do you decide who sings the main parts of which songs?

Look, I LIVE in harmony land that I love singing harmonies. Abby’s a great harmony singer, but she’s an incredible lead. So I feel like we quite naturally just slot in to our positions. And then we do try though, in the sort of more duet songs to do a verse each and yeah, put around. And, then it’s a matter of, like one of us saying, “Oh, I learned the first verse. Can I sing that one?” Or Yeah, or, or “hang on? Did you start the last three songs? I better start this song.” So it’s really just a matter of that. And also where the register of the melody is. I usually sing a little bit lower than Abby.


How have you been passing your time through COVID, dare I ask?

Actually, I do a lot of the back end stuff. We both have out very distinct roles, behind the scenes of Baby and Lulu. But my major role is all the web stuff and the design stuff. I do the website and I do the posters. And I do the flyers. And I just edited the last Baby et Lulu video that we did. I created the shop on our website.  So I do all of the digital stuff. And I love learning all that stuff. And it’s often on a need to know basis. It was like, well, we don’t really have $1000s to spend on an editor. Now go and learn it.


For me it is really easy. I like nutting out the problems so that actually kept me really really busy. I spent a lot of work getting it over the line for last year, so this year there was a whole second round. Oh and we’ve made some merchandise coming so I did the design for them but Abby and I then finalised the designs together.

Lara designs much of the Baby et Lulu merch. This mirror is available now. New merch coming soon!

It’s been really fun doing all the creative stuff and we really love doing that stuff. It’s really fun getting the album artwork, just how we like it. That’s been actually keeping me very busy.


I don’t know that people know just how many hours go into every mix and every note and the details in every email …


I’m also doing a Masters in Music at the Conservatorium. So I am just doing one subject a semester at the moment. So that’s going to keep me going now – if I’m not on the road, but we won’t say that – and also homeschooling with my son.


Do you think that recording an album that was crowdfunded like Album Trois gives you more freedom compared to an album that you’d produce under a label?

They’re all independent. What we’ve done is just kind of borrowed the money in the past and just paid it back through sales and this time, we chose to do the crowdfunding and it really was very, very helpful particularly because since our last album, there’s no more iTunes. There wasn’t any streaming in the last album. Amazingly enough, that was pre-streaming.


So there’s no more iTunes?

It still exists today. But any month now, it’ll be gone. And it’s only going to be Apple Music. So there will be no buying of MP3s through those platforms. I mean, you can certainly do it through other platforms. It’s all gone to streaming and the income from streaming is a tiny fraction.


We used to make a reasonable income from iTunes purchases and we don’t make an income from Spotify. So, it was a good way to encourage people to pre buy an album, or at least a digital album. For us, it was a really good move.


Baby et Lulu Album Deux
Baby et Lulu Album Deux cover

Album Deux was nominated for an ARIA award. Do you know how many foreign language albums have ever been nominated? I imagine it’d be very, very few.  It’s an honour to be nominated at all, but even more special for a language album.

It’s fantastic. We did it as part of the world music genre. It’s hard to know which genre to put yourself in and only put yourself into one genre. So we chose world over jazz because the jazz scene is quite strict. And it’s jazz, you know, and I think world was correct. A good choice for us but you’re right, there have not been many releases that haven’t been either in indigenous language or just Gypsy music.


Monsieur Camembert got the world music Aria a few times. So they have done songs in different languages.


Who would you say your main audience is?

That’s a good question! We’re pleased to say that we do have some Frenchies who come along to our show and we are always extremely pleasantly surprised that they love the show.


It must be nerve racking.

Nerve racking and it’s a fine line, because we certainly don’t want them to think that we’re poking fun because it’s really an homage to all things French, like Matilda Marseillaise. But we’re often being very silly as well. I think thankfully that they can see that we absolutely ADORE the language and the music because we certainly also, aside from the jokes we pour in a lot of love I think.


So there are some French people and then it’s really nice range of all ages. We certainly do get an older crowd as well and we’re very comfortable with that. A lot of a lot of people from older generations, like I say, like the movies that we were growing up with – that’s their era. So that’s wonderful. And we get a lot of retirees who are coming and drinking wine and having a fantastic time so that works for us. It’s a nice range.


So it’s a mixture of Francophones and Francophiles.

Absolutely and even friends of them. The lovely thing is they bring people along who have no idea what they’re seeing have nothing to do with French language or French music and they all leave with a huge smile on their face saying “we’ll be back“.


What is your favourite French song to listen to? Any all time faves?

I can never remember all-time favourite of anything so I can’t answer that question. However, I can tell you that two of my favourite latest last albums by French performers were the last Camille album, she did a French version and an English version. In English, it was Seeds (and in French OUÏ). I listened to that over and over and over and just loved it. The other one was Christine and the Queens. I listened to her last album so much.


When the tour does happen, if people haven’t seen you before, how would you describe your show?

It is fun. It is a musical extravaganza. Our band are just absolutely and utterly stunning. They wow us at every show. There is an energy between all the musicians and between me and Abby that is really, really joyful and trusting and we all feel supported by each other. It’s a great experience for us on stage and I think that’s why people keep coming back. It’s a genuine pleasure for all of us and it has an energy of its own and it’s a really joyful experience and a really beautiful musical one.

We thank Lara Goodridge for taking the time to chat to us about Album Trois, Baby et Lulu’s latest release out this week.

Album Trois pre-order/pre-save/pre-add

You can pre-save/pre-add/pre-order Album Trois to your preferred music platform via the links you’ll find here:


You can also pre-order a physical copy of Album Trois, as well as the previous albums via Baby et Lulu’s website: New Baby et Lulu merch is also coming soon!


Album Trois single releases

You can listen to a few of the tracks already released from the Baby et Lulu’s new album, Album Trois, via the links below:


1st official single release: Jardin aux souvenirs


2nd official single release: Paris sera toujours Paris :


Also watch the video for it here:


3rd official single release: La ballade de la mer:


Baby et Lulu Album Trois Tour Dates and tickets

Saturday 4th Sept – Camelot Lounge – Marrickville NSW –

Friday 1st Oct – Memo Music Hall St Kilda VIC –

Saturday 2nd Oct – Palais Hepburn Hepburn Springs VIC

Sunday 3rd Oct – Archies Creek Hall (3.00pm) Archies Creek VIC –

Saturday 9th Oct – The Music Lounge Wollongong NSW –

Saturday 16th Oct – The Street Theatre Canberra ACT –

Saturday 23rd Oct – Trinity Sessions Adelaide SA –

Saturday 30th Oct – Camelot Lounge (6.30pm) Marrickville NSW –

Saturday 30th Oct – Camelot Lounge (9pm) Marrickville NSW –

Friday 5th Nov – Powerhouse Brisbane QLD

Friday 12th Nov – Baroque Room (6.15pm) Katoomba NSW

Friday 12th Nov – Baroque Room (8.45pm) Katoomba NSW –


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Baby et Lulu - Album Trois

Cabernet Sauvignon Day 2021: 15 things you didn’t know about Cabernet Sauvignon

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To celebrate Cabernet Sauvignon Day 2021, we share 15 things you might not know about the grape varietal and its wines plus as always some recommendations from French wine importers in Australia.

Cabernet Sauvignon Day 2021

1. The Cabernet Sauvignon grape is relatively young in the wine grape world – likely a chance crossing between Cabernet Franc and Sauvignon Blanc during the 17th century in South-Western France.


2. The oldest Cabernet Sauvignon planting in the world was planted in the 1880s. It is in South Australia’s Penfold’s Kalimna Block 42.


3. There are a few theories as to the origin of the word Cabernet – some think it is a distortion of “Carmeneth” others refer to the colour carmine and others still note the Arabic word “karma” meaning “vine”.


4. There is no disagreement however that the “Sauvignon” part of the grape name stems from the French word for wild “sauvage”.


5. Cabernet Sauvignon is also known as Bouchet, Bouche, Petit-Bouchet, Petit-Cabernet, Petit-Vidure, Vidure, Sauvignon Rouge.


6. Cabernet sauvignon grapes are small (which helps their ease of growing almost anywhere) with thick, black skins which is where the strong tannins that they are known for come from.


7. Cabernet Sauvignon is the most widely planted wine grape in the world, with a total of 341,000 hectares (3,410 km²) under vine worldwide.


8. In France, there are 126,000 acres of Cabernet Sauvignon which makes it the 4th most planted red grape varietal in France.


9. Bordeaux is the heartland of Cabernet Sauvignon. It’s thought to be where it originated and it is where 60% of France’s cabernet sauvignon grapes are grown.


10. Bordeaux’s famous Cabernet Sauvignons are a blend of Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet franc and Merlot.


11. In the South-Western French AOCs of Bergerac and Buzet use cabernet sauvignon to make rosé wine.


12. Whereas in Bordeaux it is used in a blend, in Languedoc cabernet sauvignon is often found in single varietal vin de pays.


13. In Australia, there are 25,000 hectares of Cabernet Sauvignon planted, which is about 30% of black grape plantings. It’s the 4th largest cabernet sauvignon growth in the world after Chile and the USA.


14. Cabernet Sauvignon is the second most planted and most sold red in Australia after Shiraz.


15. Cabernet Sauvignon has been crossed with other grape varieties to create new ones:

    • Marselan was created in 1961 when Cabernet Sauvignon was crossed with Grenache.
    • In 1989, in Western Australia’s Swan Valley, an accidental cross saw cabernet sauvignon produce a white-berried seedling called Cygne blanc (which translates to “white swan”).
    • Cabernet Blanc was another accidental cross, this one discovered in Switzerland.
    • Cabernet Sauvignon’s pollen fertilised Glera vines in Italy producing the Italian red wine grape named Incrocio Manzoni 2.15.
    • Australia’s CSIRO created 3 new grape varieties by crossing Cabernet Sauvignon with the Spansh Sumoli grape: Cienna, Tyrian and Rubienne.
    • It was also crossed with the white German wine grape Bronner to create the white wine grape Souvignier gris.



We asked French wine importers in Australia to share their Cabernet Sauvignon Day 2021 recommendations for all budgets.


Airoldi Fine Wines

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Daniel Airoldi from Airoldi Fine Wines gives us his recommendations for Cabernet Sauvignon Day 2021.


How do French cabernet sauvignons differ from Australian cabernet sauvignons?

In general, Australian cabernets are less tannic than French ones and can have eucalyptus aromas, especially around the Margaret River. French Cabernet Sauvignons can be more austere and take longer to reach their peak.


Airoldi Cabernet Sauvignon LanessanFor a smaller budget, which French cabernet sauvignon do you recommend?

The Château Lanessan 2016  which comes from the Haut-Médoc



This is a wine of incredible beauty at a small price and comes from a great Bordeaux vintage.


What would you serve with it?

Grilled lamb chops on vine shoots and ratatouille.


For those with a larger budget, which French cabernet sauvignon do you recommend?

The Grand Vin du Château Latour 1986



The King of Cabernet Sauvignon, Latour is a un premier cru of the Medoc region and this vintage is ready to drink, but keeps an impressive freshness despite its age!


What would you serve with it?

Duck breast with mushrooms sautéed with persillade.


Le Plonque

Margot from Le Plonque shares her recommendations with us.


How do French cabernet sauvignons differ from Australian cabernet sauvignons?

There are two major differences between France and Australia when it comes to Cab Sav. The first difference is related to natural conditions. The Australian climate and terroir produce powerful wines, rich in alcohol, which will have a lot of body with riper notes of red fruits (black cherry). The French Cab Sav will be less rich in alcohol, but still full bodied. And it will have more acidic red fruit aromas (raspberry, strawberry) with sometimes green notes (bell pepper).


The second big difference is the vinification. Australian cab sav will often be vinified alone as a varietal wine (just cab sav), while in France it is blended (especially in Bordeaux) to give the wine more suppleness and balance. The grape varieties often used with cabernet sauvignon are merlot, cabernet franc or petit verdot. Merlot has the particularity to “complete” the Cabernet. The power of Cabernet linked to the elegance of Merlot have created many great wines. Depending on whether we are on the right or left bank of the Bordeaux estuary, we dose differently (more cabernet on the left bank, more merlot on the right bank).


Cabernet Sauvignon Day 2021 - Le Plonque DallauFor a smaller budget, which French cabernet sauvignon do  you recommend?

Chateau Dallau 2016



It is an accessible, unpretentious Bordeaux that has a nice balance and is good to drink now. Almost 10 years of ageing is ideal for this wine!


What would you serve with it?

With red meat, perfect with grilled meat on a nice day!


Le Plonque - International Cabernet Sauvignon Day 2021For a larger budget, which French cabernet sauvignon would you recommend?

If you want to enjoy a Cabernet, I recommend a Pauillac. An appellation well known for its wines with incredible ageing potential and irresistible aromas. Château Pontet Canet is a good example.



An estate that, in addition to being a Grand Cru Classé 1855, is biodynamic and works in the greatest respect of the environment. A high fashion wine, made with the best grapes. Innovative viticulture techniques. A great potential for ageing. This wine really has everything to seduce.


What would you serve with it?

A red meat that has taste, a leg of lamb will probably be the best choice..

What will you be drinking for Cabernet Sauvignon Day 2021?


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